October 16, 2011, 9:44 AM

Blues Find 3rd Period Success in San Jose

Oct 16

Getting timely saves can sure go a long way in the NHL. Goaltender Brian Elliott came up large in his first career start for the Blues preserving a 4-2 road win in San Jose.

Late in the third period Sharks D-man Dan Boyle took a nice cross ice feed from Joe Thornton and had Elliott scrambling to slide over. Boyle had plenty of open net to shoot at but was denied by Elliott’s glove.

Personally I thought Boyle took too much time in getting his shot off but after the game he felt he shot the puck too quickly. Regardless it was the save the Blues needed to rebound from a 3-2 loss two nights earlier in Dallas.

Elliott has earned the right to start again tonight in Anaheim. The Blues like to call Jaroslav Halak their number one goaltender but that title only goes so far when you struggle winning hockey games. Regardless, Davis Payne needs to go with the hot hand and it’s obvious Halak’s confidence isn’t where it needs to be.

Goaltending is no different than any other position, you have to earn your ice time and Elliott performed when given the opportunity.

The Blues need to get their special teams corrected. The team practiced with three separate PP units prior to Saturday’s game. A lot of this has to do with injuries to Andy McDonald and Carlo Colaiacovo, two guys who regularly play the PP. I know it’s only four games in but the Blues rank near the bottom of the league in PP% at just over 6% and last in the league in PK% at 64%.  

This has to improve.

St. Louis played the grind it out game you have to play if you want to have success on the road. They allowed 36 shots but they also blocked 26. Barett Jackman led the way in this department with seven blocks.

Injuries have certainly opened the door for Vladimir Sobotka to see more ice time. He played 18 minutes Saturday night, his most so far this season. Drawing a fourth line assignment didn’t necessarily sit too well with him in camp and it was only a matter of time before he found a way to earn more responsibility. He brings too much to the table to sit at the end of the bench.

The Blues struggled in the face-off department winning only 39% of their draws and only 43% of face-offs on the PP.

Davis Payne and his club should feel good about getting this win. Finding ways to win in third period is what good hockey teams do.

The Blues could easily be 4-0 right now.


Congrats to Pat Maroon!

St. Louis native Pat Maroon has been called up and will likely play his first career NHL game tonight when the Blues face the Anaheim Ducks. Maroon is a product of the AAA Amateur Blues as well as the Tier II St. Louis Bandits. He played in the OHL with the London Knights before being selected by the Philadelphia Flyers in the sixth round. He was traded to Anaheim last season.


McDonald Update….

The Blues have yet to say anything official but I’m told it looks like McDonald will miss some time which means a trip to the IR is a decent possibility.

Carlo Colaiacovo is eligible to come off IR today but that seems very unlikely.

Forward B.J. Crombeen will not need surgery to repair a fractured shouler. Still has a ways to go before he returns.


Davidson meets with Hulsizer….

Blues President John Davidson met with potential Owner Matt Hulsizer last Thursday in Chicago.

Word is Hulsizer is bringing at least one person on board who’s expected to be involved on the hockey side.

More to come,
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got to say the offseason acquisitions are all looking pretty good right now. clearly it is still early but they couldn't have hoped for a much better start. would like to see nichol raise his percentage from the dot. (i say this noting that i assumed cheechoo was rivermen signing. 3 games, 0 points, minus 5. is he still getting worse?)
in reply to Blue Clam
I concur with Andy that the "hot" goalie deserves to be playing.
in reply to HallPlante
"before being selected by the Philadelphia Flyers in the sixth round", should read after the Blues selected Anthony Peluso Philadelphia selected Maroon.

Agree I'll go with Elliot but if this is our hot hand lol...the second goal was a terrible play on his part. This all is coming from our super poor defensive coverage down low especially on the pk. But he decided to dive out for a lose puck against two SHarks players when maybe he should have stayed back a bit there. But otherwise good game.

I think Grachev is playing better than Sobotka who is playing better than a number of other forwards.
in reply to BlueManGuru
Well again sloppy play, bad penalties and terrible goaltending. Why? The third goal. Yes he would need to make a great save but he gets $4million to do that at least once in a game.

At this point, the Blues have to seriously consider bringing up Allen or Bishop and carry three goaltenders. Yes. They might need to start contacting some European clubs to loan him out for a short while. He needs to figure it out and regain his confidence. He fights nearly every save. He is NOT seeing the puck. The first two goals yeah not his fault really. But he looks shaky and unsure. He started the game a bit better and I think that's the competition element Elliot's game brought. But without goaltending in the West it will be a long year. You cannot expect Elliot to your starter period.
We have the players but the mixture isn't right. There is not enough gelling. There isn't enough hunger. The coaching is looking more and more questionable because it makes you wonder about game preparation, a terrible penalty kill and even worse power play. There does not appear to be any set plays and if there the execution is terrible.

There's so much right and wrong about this team at the moment and the biggest place it emanates from is the goaltending position. Since the first game you could see there wasn't trust there.

If our goal is to win a Cup we are heading in the right direction but we'll probably have to wait another year unless this team works out the bugs or finds a good trade.


in reply to BlueManGuru
I actually think Halak responded well tonight. Yeah his numbers were not good but the blues got legitimately beat by the Ducks. Our defense looked really young out there. Nikitin, Shattenkirk, even Petro was shaky against the ducks big forwards. But yeah when your goaltender gets outplayed by the opposition's, it's always gonna be an uphill battle.

Does make you wonder though, if they don't start collecting wins and improve the special teams, if Hulsizer wont make some coaching changes. flag this comment
Carcus if attempting to teach an idiot how to to think or understand what's going on and expecting them to move somewhere forward well...it's a worthless venture. In other words, I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you the sport of hockey, which is simple but apparently above your head.

I'm not saying the season is over I'm saying their is a lot to be concerned about. Our bets should be covered. Escape plans made. 97 points buddy, that don't come easily. Losing points we should have, well that's hard.

The Ducks weren't that great. Our special teams suck as our goaltending does. Period. Which probably has alot to do with the coaching. I am NOT saying to blow it all up after five games but I am saying that crap is serious wrong and warning signs should be going off.

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Special teams are horrible. Defense is weak. Offense is flaccid. Goal tending is horrible. Blues are lucky to win in San Jose and the coaching staff will be lucky to see the 15th game. The only thing that might keep them alive for a bit is the pending sale. JD will finally be canned post deal closed. Can't blame the prospective owner for wanting a price deduction for the announcer's salary. Andy Mac, Carlo and BJ have no reason to hurry back. Why bother? Tho, the Blues are likely better without BJ.
in reply to FloridaBlue
Memo to Nikita Nikitin: Either block the shot or get the heck out of the way completely. Those half-hearted stick-a-body-part-in-the-way efforts always turn out badly for the goaltender.

in reply to bcallaway
Exactly. What the heck was he doing there? It was a nice deflection into the top shelf though, but he needs to realize that is on his own goalie.

Anyone who thinks that was terrible goaltending in the Ducks game needs their heads examined. I am not sure if I said it here or on stltoday but I think around 95% of hockey fans have no clue when it comes down to goaltending. Sorry blueman, but send him to Europe??? Halak played a very good game. Look at the highlights on the Blues website if you don't remember all of the great saves he had. He was tested and there was not a single soft goal by Halak. (but there was with Hiller, imagine that. It is not only Blues goalies that give up soft ones)

Ducks deserved the win for sure. flag this comment
Well Cracus I have had my head examined.

I'm not joking. He looks shaky as hell on most of his saves. READ. I said he played better but still is lacking. That third goal LIKE I SAID EARLIER, required a big save from him and YET he let it in. That's the difference in the game. I also think one of the forwards should have went to get a stick or be replaced but hey. You need your goaltender to come up with one BIG save at a critical moment. You're down 2-1 in the third. It would not have been that difficult of a save to make.

You guys get upset with Nikithin, which is deserved but it's a symptom of trying to do the goaltenders job b/c you don't trust your goaltender to make the save.

The FLorida Blue guy said something that was correct--our defense looked young. This was a fear I had about this season but I don't feel their sophomore slumping, they just try to do too much sometimes. Shattenkirk played well but he tried to force a number of passes he probably shouldn't have.

But Carcus remember before the season we said the most important number will be Halak's save pct???? I guess you can start agreeing.

I am still positive about this team but jesus eh f*(() christ man! Haven't you learned yet in life you CANNOT polish a turd???? It just gets poop everywhere.

This team like I said doesn't look gelled together or well coached. I've already watched well over 20 hockey games this season and the differences are HUGE.

But finally Grachev saw some time on a top line. That kid is a BIG bright spot in this mess. He looks like a dynamic top six player. There's something special there. I hope he finds it sooner than later and stays hungry b/c he looks very special. flag this comment
And note carcus I have talked about the Blues poor defensive coverage being a BIG reason for them giving up goals. DO I honestly think Halak can turn it around? Yes. Do I think he needs competition? Yes. Do I think he might need to be on the IR for like a month? Yes. SOmething isn't working in his head. He is not tracking pucks like usual. I defended him last season. But right now he hurts this team more than helps it. If I'm management I need to know what options I have and I need to find this out sooner than later. Why? B/c I can count a number of exceptional young goaltenders(who are better than Halak), out there that will be traded either this season or in the off season. I would want to know say if Allen is for real or not. And maybe that's not a fair question at this time but you can get an idea. Maybe Bishop has turned a corner. Big goaltenders do great in this league if they figure out their positioning.

ANd Carcus I know how goaltending works. I know how easy it is to score off of most of them and I know how a good goaltender causes you think, seems to deek you or look bigger than they are.

Bottom line something is missing from this team. flag this comment
Halak is not a turd. You and many are frustrated because the Blues have been losing, and Halak is the easy target.

He needs to go on the IR for a month??? Comments like that tell me that you really don't know what you are talking about regarding goaltending. You want to ship him to Europe or put him on IR. He just played a very good game yesterday and the Blues were outplayed. He had little to no chance on the goals scored against him. The special teams play has been terrible.

Save Percentage is a stat that many like to judge a goaltender, but it really isn't as great as most think. The link below probably does a better job but is most likely still flawed. Screened shots, deflections, etc are always going to be hard to put into stats.

Take a deep breath. The Blues are 2-3. flag this comment
And that play by Nikitin was not a symptom of trying to do the goaltenders job. It was a lazy play. A long shot from the point with nobody but you in front of the goaltender. That puck is not going in. Halak makes that save 100 times out of 100. Stuff like that drives people crazy, but usually the focus is on the wrong person because the D is completely to blame there and most will blast the goalie without really thinking. flag this comment
Just food for though... A stats professor at St. Lawrence University came up with a new way to measure save percentages, taking into account the difficulty of the shots. According to him, Halak faced the most difficult shots in the NHL last year.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576635272501531268.html?mod=wsj_share_tweet_bot#articleTabs=article

in reply to ribett31
Fatty, we were just talking about this! Nice link! flag this comment
Yeah that is an interesting formula he came up with. It looks like he's mainly looking at where the shots are coming from. I'd still rather see a stat based on quality chances. A straight up shot from the bottom of the circle is a lot different than one that is taken off a cross ice feed at the same location. Also, a stat that maps the frequency and location of a goalies rebounds would factor into how many close in shots are taken.

What this stat tells me more than anything is that the Blues D needs to get a lot better at controlling the front of their net. Guys that are now dependent on being regular penalty killers, namely Pietrangelo and Nikitin, need to use their size and strength to start cross checking and making it hard for guys to occupy the crease. That's one area where the Blues miss Brewer. He would cross check the hell out of anybody that came in front of the net.

Again, the problem I've noticed with Halak, and I think Guru has too, is not his raw ability to stop close in shots, but his ability to stay focused and control the shots better. How many extra shots in close did Halak give up because he bobbled the original shot, or it bounced out of his glove? flag this comment
Sorry, not sure how to share a link on here. Copy it and put it in your browser.
in reply to ribett31
Steen, D'Agostini, Arnott and McDonald are the only players who have consistently played well through these first few games. So, basically, our third line has been our best line. Not good. Everyone else has had off periods or even off nights. Halak was not the problem last night. From top to bottom, this team has not been good. It makes me really bitter to hear this team describe themselves as hardworking when they get outplayed badly for a period or two every night.
in reply to jammer21
I'd Grachev, Berglund and Sobtka have been our best forwards so far. STeen has worked hard. D'Ags has been good but has made some questionable decisions.

Mcy D is always on but alas... Arnott has worked well. The others have been inconsistent. Bad positioning and sloppy play and some flat efforts.

Halak might have not been the problem per se last night but HE HAS GOT TO STEP UP AT THE CRITICAL MOMENTS IN A GAME AND GIVE HIS TEAM A CHANCE. That third goal, he's made that stop many times. flag this comment
Halak did made a lot of those critical saves you're talking about, like shutting down Selanne early in the third when it was still tied. He shut down Getzlaf and Ryan prior to that, too. The fact that it was still tied after two periods was because Halak was making the saves needed to give the Blues a chance to win. I don't see how you can fault him on the third goal. Perry was in perfect position unharassed by the defense and the Rocket Richard Trophy winner tipped it home. Stewart and Backes should have been taking notes. Those are the ugly goals that win hockey games because you're crashing the net. flag this comment
Exactly. It is the in thing to do to jump all over Halak. He deserves some of it with a couple of below average games but it is early. Too many have seemed to lose all confidence in Halak. When the Blues players figure out the special teams this team will take off. flag this comment
Carcus the in thing to do...lol. Go screw yourself.

I thought he was better but still shaky. I said he NEEDS to make that save. I also said it wouldn't be an easy save. I said the Blues don't have any good defensive coverage down low.

Hey he looked a bit more confident in the period in a half I saw last night. But he didn't make the saves. Were they easy saves no. The Blues have now coverage when for instance Jackman drops down to the man after he's already scored. And my hope was flying high after he took that shot off of his foot.

Why do all the players gravitate to same places on the ice? Coaching.

But hey happy trails when the team embarrasses the city and its fans. Something isn't right there. Langenbrunner on the first line? Can't even chip a backhander in the air a bit with a straight blade? I don't know if it's all the coach, or one specific coach or some players, if it means we need a big trade or it's the whole ownership thing which doesn't seem to bother Phoenix and they should suck.
Colorado should be a bottom feeder but they bring in a good back up and trade for a great goaltender that's had a history of not playing many games without injuries. But great when he's healthy. A crap defense, a good offense and great goaltending. flag this comment
I'm not gonna blame Halak for that loss either. That was one instance of him facing too many high quality chances.

Jammer, Stewart and Backes know how to make that tip in. The issue was that the Blues D left it way too easy for him to just stand there and get a stick on it. Most of the time when you see Backes go to the front of the other teams net, he's got at least one guy harassing the f__ out of him.
in reply to fattyboubatty
What an ugly game.
Except for those Gretzky era uni's, I love those.
in reply to fattyboubatty
Did anyone see after Grachev tried to keep the puck in and caused a two on one that he caught his man on the back check? That was an awesome effort. We'r not seeing that from the top of the line up down.

We were hosed by the officiating there a bit. When Stewart took a penalty, Brown should have been called twice against Shattenkirk and he throws the first punch against Stewart and right before then slashes Oshie. But again we have to battle through that. We are making poor decisions.
They showed them practicing the power play and getting a player in the high slot like I talked about. But didn't execute. The first pp was good. I still have to finish watching the game.

I am disappointed in this team. We are lacking something.
in reply to BlueManGuru
Halak is fighting it bad. Elliot plays a great game and Payne comes back with Halak for two in a row? Head scratcher for me. I don't get it. Halak fought it in preseason and he's continued to struggle early on. Blues will go nowhere without Halak pulling it together but for now you have to reward the hot goalie. Ice time should be earned by everyone including the $4 million dollar man.
in reply to gobluenotes1
Anybody got Guy Carbonneau's phone number???

in reply to bcallaway
Do you think they are going to seriously think about changing the head coach right before the team is sold?

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Yes I do. They can't let this season get away. flag this comment
Terrible effort.

This team is better than this.
in reply to carcus
Are they?

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Yes, they are. flag this comment
I think they are as well, but I'll be darned if I can find any real evidence to support that at this point.

Can you? flag this comment
Maybe not. If that is the case though it would take a lot more than a coaching change then. flag this comment
I agree that it's going to take a lot more than a coaching change. There are too many problems and none of them have easy fixes. Poor defense, shaky goaltending, downright bad special teams, unwillingness of our "big bodies" to crash the net, and terrible team effort. I think goaltending and crashing the net might be the only issues to correct themselves. Based on recent seasons, I don't see the Blues suddenly playing a full 60 minutes. Or a young defense figuring things out in time to still have a crack at the playoffs. Or how a PP and PK are going to markedly improve over last year's production with virtually the same team and same coaching.

I'm still not convinced this is a playoff team. flag this comment
The special teams are BAD. Can't sugar coat it. No way to cover it up or fool anyone. Who's fault is it?
in reply to gobluenotes1

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